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Peace in the Qur'an
Anonymous      14 December 2003
Q: Does Islam really teach peace? I am a Christian and I do not hate Muslims, but I read in the Qur’an verses like, "And slay them wherever ye catch them.." (2:191) and "..But if they turn away, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (4:89). How can a peaceful religion teach these things? How do you explain these verses. These quotations from your Holy Book do really make us very uneasy with your faith. I would appreciate your reply.

A: Thank you very much for your kind words that you do not hate Muslims. Hate is not good for any person. I want to assure you that we Muslims also do not hate non-Muslims, be they Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist or followers of any religion or no religion. Our religions does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur'an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad -peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah.


The Qur'an says about the prohibition of murder:

وَلاَ تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكُمْ وَصَّاكُمْ بِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ

"..Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom." (al-An'am 6:151)


and Allah says in the Qur'an:

وَلاَ تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ وَمَنْ قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِ سُلْطَانًا فَلاَ يُسْرِفْ فِي الْقَتْلِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مَنصُورًا

"Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)" (al-Isra' 17:33)


According to the Qur'an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al-Ma'idah 5:32)


However, your question is valid then how come the Qur'an says:


"kill them wherever you find them..."
as it is mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah 2:191 and Surah al-Nisa' 4:89. The answer is simple and that is you should read these verses in their textual and historical context. You should read the whole verse and it is better that you read few verses before and few after. Read the full text and see what is said:
 

وَقَاتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ وَلاَ تَعْتَدُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأَخْرِجُوهُمْ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَخْرَجُوكُمْ وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنْ الْقَتْلِ وَلاَ تُقَاتِلُوهُمْ عِنْدَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ حَتَّى يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ فَإِنْ قَاتَلُوكُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ كَذَلِكَ جَزَاءُ الْكَافِرِينَ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ وَقَاتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ لِلَّهِ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَلاَ عُدْوَانَ إِلاَّ عَلَى الظَّالِمِينَ الشَّهْرُ الْحَرَامُ بِالشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحُرُمَاتُ قِصَاصٌ فَمَنْ اعْتَدَى عَلَيْكُمْ فَاعْتَدُوا عَلَيْهِ بِمِثْلِ مَا اعْتَدَى عَلَيْكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ

"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves." (al-Baqarah 2:190-194)


For your second quotation also read the full text:
 

وَدُّوا لَوْ تَكْفُرُونَ كَمَا كَفَرُوا فَتَكُونُونَ سَوَاءً فَلاَ تَتَّخِذُوا مِنْهُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ حَتَّى يُهَاجِرُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ تَوَلَّوْا فَخُذُوهُمْ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَلاَ تَتَّخِذُوا مِنْهُمْ وَلِيًّا وَلاَ نَصِيرًا إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ يَصِلُونَ إِلَى قَوْمٍ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهُمْ مِيثَاقٌ أَوْ جَاءُوكُمْ حَصِرَتْ صُدُورُهُمْ أَنْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ أَوْ يُقَاتِلُوا قَوْمَهُمْ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَسَلَّطَهُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ فَلَقَاتَلُوكُمْ فَإِنْ اعْتَزَلُوكُمْ فَلَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ وَأَلْقَوْا إِلَيْكُمْ السَّلَمَ فَمَا جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سَبِيلاً سَتَجِدُونَ آخَرِينَ يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَأْمَنُوكُمْ وَيَأْمَنُوا قَوْمَهُمْ كُلَّ مَا رُدُّوا إِلَى الْفِتْنَةِ أُرْكِسُوا فِيهَا فَإِنْ لَمْ يَعْتَزِلُوكُمْ وَيُلْقُوا إِلَيْكُمْ السَّلَمَ وَيَكُفُّوا أَيْدِيَهُمْ فَخُذُوهُمْ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأُوْلَئِكُمْ جَعَلْنَا لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سُلْطَانًا مُبِينًا

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa' 4:89-91)


Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one any where? These verses were revealed by Allah to Prophet Muhammad (Salla Allah Ta'ala Alaihi Wa Salam) at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non-Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the "terrorist". These verses are not a permission for "terrorism" but they are a warning against the "terrorists." But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized.


It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals. But this is not only with Islamic texts, it is also true with the texts of other religions. I can quote dozens of verses from the Bible which seem very violent, if taken out from their historical context. These Biblical texts have been used by many violent Jewish and Christian groups. Crusaders used them against Muslims and Jews. Nazis used them against Jews. Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians.


Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:
 

"When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

"When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you... Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deutronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, sparefor yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)


Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:
 

"I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)
 

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Comments (40)
Dont be bias and thoughtless
atiq       40 Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:49
I am a muslim .This is an interesting topic which I read, thanks every one.The only problem is this, every one talked with their own point of view.Many hundred of versions the bible including the say of Jesus Christ(pbuh), if we pick up them out of context, it will go certainly against humanity. Then our christian Brothers would say , please read the bible with context but the same people do not try to understand the Quran with context.Many of us neither read the Bible or The Quran with context, neither they try to understand. The Quran is the latest, updated , purified version of the Bible, which was revealed by the same God, The God of Abraham, Jacob..Jesus Christ (pbuh) to Prophet Muhammad(pbu) who was an unlliterate Prophet, also mentioned in the Bible ( Books Of Isaiah 29"12)
Does the Qur'an Teach Violence?
Suzanne       39 Tuesday, 18 October 2011 14:00
I want to thank you so much for the great explenation. I grew up knowing that I'm Muslim but never realy understood it or follow the correct rules. I am trying to find out more about Islam. I want to learn it even more but unfortunatly I can't read arabic. But I'm so happy there is also in English. I am doing my best to learn more about Islam bymyself and inchaAllah I do the right things as it's written in Quran how a Muslim should lead it's life.
great collection
paul8bee       38 Monday, 19 September 2011 03:38
Was wanting to write this myself.
I am impressed
Who has the time to scan countless historical documents.?
Except By Justice
Islam TRUTH       37 Monday, 12 September 2011 00:46
"Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law:"


The KEY WORDS here are "EXCEPT BY JUSTICE" which Muslims see blowing up those who reject Islam and reject Allah and stand for "freedoms" as JUSTICE.
For he prowls around like a lion seeking whom he may devour............................you must defend yourself
Holy Spirit       36 Tuesday, 06 September 2011 02:06
I find it ironic that the Bible was written hundreds of years before the koran. And people still try to say that the bible is wrong when in reality the koran is just a cheap knockoff of the one and only book of God sent here to deceive by satan himself. If the the koran was a book of peace like the Islamic culture try to say it is then it would not cantain countless verses like this

''Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.'' (Surah 9:5)

and you can easily find more
WRONG
islam is a way of life       35 Monday, 08 August 2011 20:57
May I just add that if you keep reading each verse that you happen to pick and choose words, you would know that it doesn't say just go ahead and kill people if they don't believe but if they try to revert you to what they believe and you choose not to because you know Islam is the true religion and the only religion that Allah will accept in the hereafter than do what you must.(i.e. surat al-kafirun) Please before you go ahead and bash other religions have an open mind and read the Quran fully and understand fully that Islam is not a violent religion that the media portrays but a peaceful religion and a way of life.
Inshaa'Allah may Allah guide all the believing muslims on the start path to Jann'a
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Johnny Boy       34 Saturday, 06 August 2011 16:36
I have read quite a few of the comments between Christians and Muslims... one concern I have is that a few Muslims have asked Christians to read the Quran yet why don't the Muslims read the Holy Bible? Just a thought? Is this against your belief to read the Holy Bible? You cannot blame Christians especially in America for their perception of Islam and Muslims... as many Americans have died do to Islamic extremists, terrorist who seem to use Islam as their basis to attack innocent people such as 9/11. Many Americans who are Christian and America, a country based on Christian values and morality are unsure what to believe? Many Muslims ask Christian Americans to read the Quran to prove Islam is a religion of peace, why? What will reading the Quran do that actions of Muslim can do better? Why can't you show us with peaceful protest against islamic militia groups that you do not agree with their distorted views of Islam? According to your claims. Why do Muslims not come together and invoke Jihad against the Islamic Terrorists who you claim is perverting the religion of Islam? I believe it would be in the interest of Allah to do so?

You seem to have Islamic terrorist groups also known as islamic militia groups recognized by so many Arab and Islamic countries. Some are even supported by the muslim people and it's government according to the evidence. Again, please stand up against your violent Muslims as Christians do against evil doers of evil acts perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

I also am confused when people say Islam is a religion of peace when for centuries Muslims have fought and killed since it's existence till now. After all these centuries why hasn't Islam found peace amongst yourselves?
question
Infidel       33 Tuesday, 05 July 2011 19:07
SO youre saying that you cant kill anyone unless Allah commands it, which he does with christains? Seems like youre ignoring the question.
the slaying part
KHADIJAH       32 Thursday, 30 June 2011 22:36
read on and you will find your answer...
the quran most certainly said these verses, in the BATTLEFIELD.
would you not slay your enemy on the battlefield?
if you didnt it would cost your life!
and this battle would be fair. because islam is peaceful and fair.
God the Father
Jesus is Lord       31 Sunday, 29 May 2011 21:18
Hypocrisy is found in religion, which is MAN-made...please do not refer to all Christians as hypocrites! I have yet to find ANY religion where hypocrisy does not exist. There is a difference between some who are self-proclaimed followers of Christ (but don't practice His Teachings), and true Christians (those, of course, wld be the ppl who STRIVE to become as Christ-like as HUMANLY possible, and SINCERELY repent if/when we do sin). The Bible teaches us that God IS love. I do not believe there is a greater demonstration of this throughout history than Jesus Christ's crucifixion. Don't lump Him and His followers together w/murderers who only claimed to follow Him! And the Father never has to prove Himself so it's not necessary for Christianity to "make sense" or go hand-in-hand w/ANY type of science! If it were, there wld be no need for FAITH (belief WITHOUT proof)in the LORD God Almighty! I think He may believe that sending out his only son to be SLAUGHTERED by mere men, shld be proof enough. I challenge anyone who reads this and is not a true follower of Christ, to get a Bible and begin in the Book of Matthew. Each time you read (prior to reading), pray to God to open your spiritual eyes and spiritual ears to help you KNOW the Truth and receive it with your heart b/c "Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." Matthew 13:13 May God bless you on your walk with Him and help you see the Truth. Praise be to God!
a good cause
what is wrong with this world       30 Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:08
Hey you guys please listen and consider my comment carefully! please somebody somewhere gather a protest against terrorism. Gather alot of Muslim/Americans who hate violence and who are angry for terrorist mis using the beautiful religion of islam. we as the true muslims who follow the true form of islam need to protest against the extremists who follow THEIR version of islam. only then will people understand we dont approve of terrorist and we are not terrorists!
Misunderstanding
Ibrahim6547       29 Sunday, 08 May 2011 22:03
Some of the people have completely misunderstood the script that has been written above or dont understand the words or phrases quoted. Please dont judge your own thinking or what other people have to say. If you want real anwsers please read the quran and fully understand it. May allah guide in the right way.

Waslaam
Bible Vs Quran
Michael Thompson       28 Friday, 06 May 2011 14:54
Remember we don't wressle again phyiscal beings really. Our battle stems from what happen Between God and one of His Arch Angels (Lucifer) it is the Satan and a 1/3 of the angels who followed him. that battle here on earth is still the same Battle between all mankind and Satan. whether Islamic or Jew or Budadusih or Christian we all Believe in a creator and Great Teacher. But satan would destroy all us, to to get back and the Creator. without faith it is impossible to Please God. Killing and Hating just don't make it. God Bless everyone
Mis-Quote
Ramses Rahman       27 Tuesday, 12 April 2011 06:05
Hello. To the gentleman who placed the words of being slain on the lips of Jesus - have mercy on him. The East has a tradition of hearing the past through others. So, it makes sense that a cursory reading of texts is common. Misquotations of the bible are very popular in this part of the world. Why? Hear-say and more so, not thorough reading. I challenge anyone to READ, READ and READ. This is scary for some, I know. Though, the gentleman wrongly placed those words on Jesus' lips. Under any or NO circumstances did or does Jesus support violence, its not his nature; at all!

What is the Messiah all about....??
Test my words:
Friend       26 Tuesday, 05 April 2011 08:56
Taking a life in the "Old Testament" had to be permitted by God directly. Taking a life in the "New Testament" had to be permitted by God directly. Watch This: The permission to take life stopped when Jesus Christ (God manifested in the Flesh, see bottom notes) removed the permission to take a life. We are supposed to obey God as Christians: this currently means we are not allowed to take a life according to the Bible. Jesus Christ allowed men to kill Him. History tells us that the disciples were all killed for preaching and serving Jesus Christ. Throughout history, Christians get killed a lot for their faith. Watch: this will not change, and it will happen some more. We are supposed to help people have a relationship with God. That alone is offensive to some and that alone will get us killed.

One God Notes: See John Chapter 1:1, 1:14 and understand that Jesus told His disciples that when you see Him you have seen the Father. Hebrews states that Jesus was the expressed image of God. The only way to see an invisible Spirit is to add flesh. This is why the Jews accused Him of blasphemy: they didn't life Jesus Christ saying He was God.

In closing: There is only One God. It is and will always be unnatural to have 2 leaders of equal power and authority. We will all find out in the end which God was the real God. But here's the sad part. IT will be too late for the majority of the world to get right with that real God. Search your heart . . . study the Bible . . . in the end . . . it's all your choice!
Peace
LAJ       25 Friday, 18 March 2011 06:51
I am also a Christian and Have you read the the book as a whole. The bible talks about putting people to death mostly in the old testament. I would not say the book as a whole is fool of hate or violence. Most people would ssay Christianity advocates violence or hate, or some type of discrimination b/c of how sin and ppl who are fin with living in their sin or viewed.
I love humanity like the Almighty wanted me to.
I love humanity like the Almighty wanted me to.       24 Thursday, 17 March 2011 20:41
I am a Muslim and I am absolutely shocked at how people have preconceived ideas about Muslims or Islam. Some of the comments here I find so false and wrongfully accusing the religion of Islam of preaching hate. There are thousands of verses in the holy Quran and the predominant messege is of worshipping the one Lord creator of the heavens and earth and what is between them. In most of the verses God calls for the open dialogue between Christians, Muslims and Jews to 'come together to one cause: to worship the one and only God'. We have tens of verses where the it stated that the scriptures have come down from God and that we, as Muslims, are not good believers if we disbelieve in ALL the prophets, from Adam, Noah, Jacob........to the final messenger Mohammed.
To those who think we are taught to hate, you are truly misguided. Nowhere in our book does it preach us to hate any particular religion. Someone here said that we(Muslims) love only those who love us but hate those who hate us. That is so sad. Because of these false accounts about Muslims, unfortunately a lot of Christians view Muslims with suspicion and they have a real problem viewing Muslims as NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS. I really, truly and sincerely with all my heart advise any one who think that Muslims have hate towards any religion, to go and READ the Quran with an open heart, not just hear bits and pieces from newspaper articles or what other people say.
That saddens us a lot because the whole point of religion is to make this earth that we live on a better place....which I can't see happening.
Luke 19:11-27
In the name of Jesus       23 Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:53
That answer you pulled up from Luke 19 is very deceptive the way you did it be cause that was a parable he was talking about. No where in our bible does it state to kill anyone. Jesus died asking God to forgive his enemies including those who killed him and nailed him on that cross. See below.

The Parable of the Ten Minas
11 As they heard these things, he proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they supposed that the kingdom of God was to appear immediately. 12 He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return. 13 Calling ten of his servants, [1] he gave them ten minas, [2] and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’ 14 But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ 15 When he returned, having received the kingdom, he ordered these servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by doing business. 16 The first came before him, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made ten minas more.’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! [3] Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’ 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made five minas.’ 19 And he said to him, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’ 20 Then another came, saying, ‘Lord, here is your mina, which I kept laid away in a handkerchief; 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man. You take what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 He said to him, ‘I will condemn you with your own words, you wicked servant! You knew that I was a severe man, taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, and at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’ 24 And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’ 25 And they said to him, ‘Lord, he has ten minas!’ 26 ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” Luke 19:11-27
Islam
No name       22 Monday, 27 December 2010 02:18
I really need help with something, I am Christian and i took religion class in college this year and Islam was a really intresting subject so I shared this with my mom I even got the best grade on Islam/Christianity test but my mom got mad for some reason she got this preast to talk to me and he was like "i called an imam once and asked him to show me one thing peaceful in the Quran and he didnt know how to answer me" I tried to protect Islam which did not work becasue i did not read the Quran so i didnt have facts but can someone explain to me like why do people think this i dont understand why its such a big deal that i respect Islam and i think true Christians should not do that becasue Jesus teached to love everyone so I am loving everyone no matter what their religion is and then they make me seem like im wrong I ned advice incase i talk to that preast again because i got really mad when he was bashing Muslims like i got extremely mad but i couldnt say anything and it gets me more mad when my family tells these stories about Mohammed I am really doing something wrong by liking the religion like i dont know what to do.
Think logically
Johnathon       21 Thursday, 02 December 2010 22:30
Islam tells people to seek knowledge, which is why they want to know the TRUTH. They are curious about the world around them, but Christianity and science do not mix at all. If you think about this logically...instead of through text.
In a school there are bullies...who do they pick on? The one that does not retribute. It is the way of human nature to do this, do not be stupid. Now if someone slapped me without reason, of course I should be able to slap him back, or find someway to retribute him. If you think bullies will eventually leave you alone, you are totally wrong. Stand up for your self, and plus Christianity might preach peace but they ATTACKED Muslims and Jews during the crusades. What are you gonna say-so do Muslim terrorists? But the thing is that the church and the pope backed them up, so you cannot compare Muslim extremists to them. Anyways, even to this day, Islam is preserved and views on it have NOT changed, unlike Christianity. There are so many different subdivisions of Christianity...why? I believe that Islam is the final and last religion. It was revised and sent down to god by the angle Gabriel...to non other than Mohammad who is a a man, nonetheless. He is not considered god, but the messenger of god. But Jesus is the SON of god?--How can THE almighty have a SON?? Why does that one person get to be special? In Islam NO one is more important than another! EQUALITY! You may say that women are not as equal? They are. They have their rights, and even have more rights than other women. Unlike women of Christianity, who were first oppressed in the middle ages, and now they are prostitutes that show of themselves without shame, women in Islam always had the same rights. Islam is the same as it was a long time ago...but Christianity is changing...if you think about this than ...WOW. Thanks, if you read all this... but think of science-evolution, space, etc.- and you will see that Islam is supportive of science. Science...read the Quran and a new world will open. Thanks for reading guys.
Virgin Birth
Bill       20 Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:40
If the Quron teaches a virgin birth of Jesus, how can Islam deny the diety of Jesus?
which religion is the right one?
Ingrid       19 Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:35
I am reading these comments with great interests. Why is it that this great GOD of ours doesn't come down here and tells us what the right religion is? Wouldn't that solve all the problems on this little precious earth that he created? If he is the one and only GOD, did he give different messages and versions to different people? Some how that doesn't makes sense to me. If GOD created this world than he is the only one who can save it by coming down here and show his true identity and tell us the real story. Until that happens there will never be peace on this earth or anywhere else. Can you imagine how peaceful people could live with one another if religion didn't exist?

Rose
taking verses from the holy books out of context
one eyed man       18 Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:19
i don't believe anyone kills people from misinterpreting a passage. however, i do believe they use those passages to rationalize the killing of others
Who is right or wrong!
Pjbsmart       17 Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:17
In the Bible it is said that the wages of sin is death and that salvation comes through Jesus. If u do not obey or love GOD u should surely die. God gave the Jews specific orders about which peoples, who were living in wickedness, to kill. Whereas, in the Quran, if I use the above given quote, Allah gives orders to the Muslim, not only to fight the infidel (those who do not accept Islam) but to kill them. There can be only ONE truth, when u compare all the books on hand. There is only one book that clearly says where the truth lies; for instance: Jesus delcares that He is the Truth, the Way and the Light and that no man comes to the Father(GOD=LOVE) except through Him (Jesus Christ). Therefore, what I am saying is that the Sunnahs as quoted above are really in context because the instructions given were given as a general rule and not wih specificities like in the bible where the names of ths nations were mentioned. As for what Jesus said is also right in context. If u do not want the True GOD to reign over you, then you are the enemy of GOD and your wages is "death". GOD will never say to the Devil "I forgive you" because the Devil has already chosen his own side which to not let the Almighty to reign over him. Therefore we have to choose when GOD will give us that opportunity for doing so. This explains the quote of Jesus parable and the order given by GOD to His people. Ameen.
Yes but here is the problem
Walt Greenmen       16 Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:46
Yes I agree reading any text, be it a legal document or a sacred scripture, one should read it completely and not take out little snippets here and there. The problem is my friends people, thousands and thousands of them, keep killing anybody who refuses to say that Islam is the only way. They go on rampages when someone defames the prophet by drawing cartoons. They riot when a Koran is burned. I watched two Iraqi citizens die because the Imams in Camp Bucca started a deadly riot because they thought an American soldier had been disrespectful to a Koran. Say what you will, but the folks who are misinterpreting the suspect passages are not only Christians.
Biblical Wars and Quran Killing Authority
Ricardo       15 Friday, 10 September 2010 00:01
There is a big difference between a sacred book (being the Bible or Quran) giving authority to kill oppressors in the present and to kill in the historical.

For example, in the Bible, the wars described in the Hebrew Scriptures where sanctioned by God were due to nations transgressing against God's people of the time, and God fulfilling his promise to give the land of the enemies to his people to set up their nation. In no way is this a proclamation by God that those claiming to be Christian or Jewish today can just willy-nilly go killing others for whatever reason. While the Jews may not agree to the following, Christians must not forget that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, made it quite clear that we are NOT to kill anyone, period. He did not say it was okay to do so if you are threatened or attacked, or because someone believes in something else. "Love your Neighbor as yourself". That pretty much says it all. "turn your cheek" implies being passive. Sure you can 'self-defense' to protect, but not be the aggressor. And that 'self-defense' does NOT include joining the military in some Government sanctioned cause of 'protecting freedom'. It's all political and is not what the Bible endorses.

Reading the quotes from the Quran, while it appears to imply that Muslims should not kill unless attacked, it clearly is far from the 'passive' approach as taught in the Bible. It's tone is more aggressive, in that if 'they attack us, kill them'. No wonder that radicals think they are doing the cause of Allah. They can simply convince themselves that they ARE being attacked, because the US is in this country or that doing this or that, so kill all Americans and that's okay. While clearly not a correct way to view it, as noted here was more a 'historical' situation, it's aggressive tone makes it too easy to misinterpret. Sadly, it does not have a more passive and loving tone to it, and so you cannot really blame people of being concerned.

In the Bible, Jesus Christ teaches "LOVE EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT LOVED", which is to "love your enemies" as well. However, it appears in the Quran it is more "love those who love you, but kill those who hate you". That's hardly comforting or the reflection of a God that I'd want any part of.

Just my opinion.
out on context
Tobias J Roos       14 Tuesday, 24 August 2010 09:50
I am a christian and came across this site trying to understand what the Qur'an teaches to better understand it. I totally agree with the FACT that you cannot just take text from Qur'an, Bible or Torah out of context. When Jesus was tempted by the devil in the dessert, the Devil did they same thing...he took scripture out of context to deceive Jesus but Jesus rebuked him by quoting the full scripture showing it's true meaning. Doesn't matter what your faith is or argument, do not take anything out of context because you clearly fail then to understand the full truth of what's going on and u end up sounding ignorant, stupid and accomplish nothing of any worth.

God Bless and Thanks :)
Bible vs Qur'an vs Torah
fishinbigpond       13 Friday, 06 August 2010 00:14
Does anyone find it a bit odd that all three holy books say basically the same words uttered by the Lord, Allah and God? Could they be referring to the same deity? Three languages, three translations. One religion interpreted differently.
Christianity and Islam
David       12 Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:51
I am a Christian, who is embarassed by our hypocracy. We are called to pray for those who mistreat us not retaliate. To condemn people who believe in responing to opression or violence with violence, when we are doing (our country which is "Christian") the same thing is hypocritical. There are extremists in both religions. The moderates need to be bold and confront those who are misrepresenting their religion, in love, to stop. Jesus didn't force people to believe in him. We can show Jesus's love for all by sticking to all his commandments, the greatest being Love God with all your Heart, and treat your neighbor as yourself. He specified a neighbor without geographic boundaries. Its All people without prejudice. Maybe the people of Islam would be inclined to learn more about Jesus if we follow what he preached. Even the sinners love those who love them. God bless, healthy dialogue with respect to all is ok.
Comprehending is key
Christian w/Common Sense       11 Tuesday, 22 June 2010 15:49
This is amazing. Some of these comments show that people are either too defensive or don't know how to comprehend what was written here. Many scriptures in either the Bible or the Qur'an can simply be taken out of context or misinterpreted if you take one or two verses out & just read them. Think about it.
The Koran proven false
Servant of JESUS - the almighty LORD.       10 Friday, 14 May 2010 06:28
Two wrongs do NOT make a RIGHT.

If someone fights you - and you fight back - all that is created - is the OPPOSITE of peace - which is CHAOS.

Jesus says: if someone slaps you on one cheek - turn the other ( do NOT fight BACK ) - THIS creates PEACE.

This makes it clear that Jesus is the only one that taught peace.

As for the violence in the old testament - that was GOD initiating the violence - using his men as PUPPETS - to filter out all evil from Israel - in order to fullfill the covenant that he made with them ( to save them from all evil ).

So that was God who utterly destroyed EVIL people through his men - as God says all over the old Testament " Vengeance is MINE " - he clearly takes it

So how do we know who is evil, and who is not?

We know by the critique of the spirit - which is RIGHTEOUSNESS. Who ever therefore does not believe in Jesus - does not believe in righteousness ( as Jesus demonstrated that he is righteousness ITSELF ( the HOLY SPIRIT - that we cannot see, but we can understand and have with us )). Whoever does not follow the words of JESUS - which are the words of life - and whoever does not accept him as LORD - which he TRULY is - this person is evil - and worthy of condemnation.

Jesus proved to be righteousness - by PREACHING righteousness.

Righteousness is the feeling that feels to NEVER fight BACK - to not fight FIRE with FIRE - but with water. To BLESS those who CURSE us. To PRAY for those who attack us and fight us and misuse us and abuse us. To HELP those who do not have food and clothes and water and nourishment, to COMFORT the lonely, the jailed and the sad.


EVEN if they do not currently believe in ALLAH ( GOD )

THIS is clearly love ( righteousness )

Muhammad did not teach this.

All throughout the old testament - God makes it very CLEAR with many signs that it is HIM who initiates the violence against EVIL people through the people of Israel - showing that there is NO sign of God ever teaching violence - as muhammad did.

The ONLY one who has the right to initiate violence is the HOLY God. Unless therefore God possesses a nation to fight - NO one should fight.

THIS is the covenant of God.
C'mon
Uhhhh       9 Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:04
Some of you commenters are absolute morons. Misquoted (Seth), you obviously don't get logic, or you can't read. As said previously, they were making the point that any book can have portions pulled from context and thus give false meaning.

To quote the first words Muhammad heard from Allah... "READ!"
Islam and Christianity!
Brandon Hall       8 Friday, 18 September 2009 18:53
I honestly believe that if your a christian, you cannot pull verses out of the Qur'an and make accusations. If your a christian and you want to learn about the Muslim Faith, YOU NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE QUR'AN! I also feel the same thing vice versa, Muslims have to read the ENTIRE HOLY BIBLE to be educated about Christianity. Most people who pull questions and accusations out of individual verses, or indivual's actions are completely uneducated about the Qur'an and the Holy Bible.
Right
Isaac       7 Tuesday, 08 September 2009 01:58
Exactly, it's an illustration of context. I think it's a good idea to go up or down a handful of verses for more understanding; it won't kill you to put 5 minutes into something that would prevent you from killing someone over a misunderstanding of the text they believe in?
It was on purpose
Mike       6 Sunday, 06 September 2009 21:06
He took the bible quotes out of context to make a point. Read what he said before he quoted it.
He is showing that if you take it out of context then the meaning sounds far different from what the scripture is actually saying.
Not Jesus Quote
Carrie Vaessen       5 Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:45
Hi, just wanted to point out that the last quote of Jesus is actually not Jesus addressing his disciples. That is a quote of an "unfeeling master" talking viciously to his servants. The explanation is just misrepresenting Jesus's character there. Thanks!
Message to earth (Seth)
Stop'n In       4 Friday, 24 April 2009 00:26
Did you not just read the whole conversation? He said that even verses from the Torah and New testamate can be taken out of context. He is just giving examples of the same thing people are doing with verses from the Qur'an. READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT!
To Seth
Ausaf Lateef       3 Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:50
I believe the purpose was to show how taking things out of context can give them entire new meanings.
Thanks a lot
Junaid Khan       2 Wednesday, 28 May 2008 01:37
Aslam uli kum
I live in Australia, I know I got very little knowledge about few things in Islam. I work here and one of my work mate asked me same Question today and i don't have any Answer. But thanks a lot for you this link due to which i able to answer Him
Many thanks again
Waslam
Misquoted.
Seth       1 Monday, 05 May 2008 02:35
If we have to read the verses before the mis quoted text of your belief shouldn't you have read the verses leading to mine? When you quoted Luke 19 you took those verses out of context....The Lord was telling a PARABLE to Zacchaeus about a ruler that had un reliable servants who wanted to overthrow him and not do as he said....
"1: And Jesus entered and passed through Jericho.
2: And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich.
3: And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature.
4: And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way.
5: And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.
6: And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully.
7: And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.
8: And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
9: And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
10: For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
11: And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12: He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13: And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14: But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15: And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16: Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17: And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18: And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19: And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20: And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21: For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22: And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23: Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24: And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25: (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26: For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

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